Hello and welcome to the You Know How To Live show my name is Kate Hammer and today we will have Maggie York with us and before I tell you a little bit about Maggie I just want to let you know that today actually marks the end of season one this is the final episode of the season and we don't yet have a date set for season two so in order to not miss a new episode make sure you're following along you can do that on Instagram or even wherever you're listening to podcasts so if you want to check us out on Instagram the handle is @youknowhowtolive_ but back to Maggie so Maggie is so many wonderful things she's an interior designer she's a social media influencer she's a former client of mine and currently a very close friend she's a mom of four she's a Midwest gal she's a farmer's wife she's a force of inspiration I am so excited for you to get to know her and for this conversation that we're going to share with you on making home work for you now wherever you're listening or watching from I'm so glad that you're tuned in and hanging out I hope you're ready for my favorite combination of things hopefully a bit of entertainment and of course some takeaways to improve how you work and play and do all the things you do in between please take a moment right now to subscribe follow leave a comment or give a five star review so that we can stay connected and with that let's bring in Maggie York hi Maggie York I can't believe you're here with us today I know hi thank you so much for having me yes absolutely um we've known each other for quite some time and we'll definitely get into that like how we know each other and um and you know a little bit about how we work together and things like that but first of all let's help people just get to know you a little bit well yes um we have known each other it seems like forever now but um I'm Maggie and I live in the Midwest central Illinois and I'm an interior designer lifestyle blogger and I live on a farm four children lots of dogs what else do you want to know yeah so Maggie when I first came across you it was on Instagram and what I was really drawn to was uh how you decorate your home and how you make it feel not just visually because everything is absolutely beautiful and you just have like a very unique and special way of curating and making spaces feel both uh airy and sophisticated but also super approachable and family-friendly so I was really drawn in by that um but then I quickly found out like oh my goodness this woman has four children some of them are quite young um she is on a farm she uh you know has a greenhouse that she works with throughout the year and you have so much going on like just this very robust background and then over the past few years you have done so much more with influencing as that has just grown generally as an option for creatives and people who have a point of view to put out there so can you tell us a little bit about um you know what your intention was maybe like a couple years ago and then how things have kind of morphed through that time yes well it's I started um I've always I had always dabbled in design and decorating to begin with and then you know several years ago we started working on this house that we live in which was my husband's home he's lived here since he was 13 with the exception of college years and um we kind of that was our first big project working together on this home and eventually over time I started helping others I got questions to help friends and family and I started doing a lot of that I helped my aunt and
uncle with a beach house of theirs and from that I got my first real big client I started working so I started working in design I think that was like three years ago more full-time two or three years ago yeah somehow over time as I've taken on projects and worked on projects I sort of started doing more and more on instagram which kind of has led to this whole other business that I never really had an intention of stepping into so it's been it's been a lot of um man it's been a learning experience I will I will tell you that much and learn as I go with it but it's been really it's been great so yeah everything I've noticed about how you've grown in your space is that it all just has this very natural quality like you said you were working on your house and making it work for your family and with your particular aesthetic and people notice and they went in on that and they're like hey you know what I don't really have an eye like that can you help me and then you share more of that online and then people are like well I'm also noticing what you're wearing as you're showing us these spaces and I'm also noticing that you have these kids and that like their rooms are really cool or they're playing with something that I'm interested in and so you've kind of just received all of that feedback and run with it as opposed to you know jumping in like okay here's what I'm trying to do and I'm gonna just make people come along with me like you've just been so able to adapt in the context and you know go where people are asking you to go so yeah I think that's been that is something that I love about this whole process is that it wasn't necessarily forced or I wasn't really trying to make that change of direction it just kind of came and yeah it is a lot of work um but with that being said it also you know it allows me to do more of what I love every day so yeah that's been a great bonus to it yes absolutely yeah I mean you can tell listen like first of all go follow Maggie Margaret of York on Instagram you'll see right away everything we're talking about here like how clear her perspective is um there's just such a clear continuity there you get this very coastal traditional vibe um I think there's a ton of curiosity around the role of the influencer for you know your typical mom who's just scrolling through Instagram looking for inspiration uh like how does it all work what's going on behind the scenes um you know for you Maggie you come up with these really creative reels for anyone who's unfamiliar reels are short videos on Instagram similar to what you would see on TikTok um but there you know potentially there can be a great deal of planning and even hours of work that can go into 15 or 30 seconds of video so yeah there's a ton for sure no we actually were videoing um some ads for a brand recently and there were 15 second videos and you think oh 15 second videos 5 15 second videos like no big deal but that was the longest 15 seconds when we were shooting it trying to figure out exactly what we were going to do in that 15 seconds so yeah it's I mean it has its challenges but it's fun so totally but I think one of the great takeaways that people should get from this episode in particular is that if you are someone who has an idea or a vision for yourself and you feel like you're a creative person and you set out in one direction don't be surprised or even frustrated if you notice that that starts to morph because it's very possible that you're just moving in a direction that's better aligned for you or that over the seasons of your life that that will change and adapt to make more sense for who you are and clearly that's you know what you've done Maggie and you've really gone with it and brought us all along on the journey well thank you I remember so for those that don't know Kate and I worked together um for a period of time while I was doing design and I remember we were doing goal setting and I had such a hard time setting like this big end goal because I kept thinking in my head well I don't know I don't know what it's going to be and I think that's part of my process because not I love goals don't get me wrong but for me I couldn't set this end goal I still don't know what it's going to be because I do think it's ever evolving and changing in my situation in particular and that's okay it's okay a lot of people think that they have to have this certain goal that they have to meet and that's not always the case so yeah absolutely maybe the intention is more along the lines of staying open and being observant to what's feeling right and what's working yeah I fought that for a long time and then more recently I'm like I'm just gonna go with the flow of how things are how things are happening for me naturally and it really when you don't fight it it it comes so much easier so ah let's just give that a beat when you don't fight it that it comes so much easier I think man do we put a lot of energy into trying to live into a standard that uh you know it's kind of set out for us in society like okay I need to wake up at this certain time my morning needs to look this one particular way and my day needs to look like this and if I don't go to sleep getting these things done then I don't deserve to feel peace or um but the reality is that as individuals a great day can look a million different ways totally and I think you might have been the one to teach me this that even if I only get that one task done in that day like I should feel really good about that and I started looking at that more and more as I used to think oh my gosh I got nothing done today but then I remember Kate being like go back and look at everything that you did today and it may not seem like a lot but that was a big task and you got it done yeah just I think about that often when I think about having a day that maybe didn't go as planned so yeah oh and gosh like as for moms that's most days right yes yes oh my gosh yes especially during christmas break when they're home and you really can't get anything done so yes yes so if you're listening we are actually recording this just a couple days before the episode is going to be out so when you're going to be actually listening to it um that hasn't always been the case for this season but it means that we get to talk about some things that are a little bit more timely uh you know in terms of the New Year but that being one of them that like oh my goodness break oh challenge I know I know so we're back we're back in school day two so so you know so far so good so yeah yeah amen to that okay so so Maggie was talking a little bit about um how we worked together in the past and through you know running bumping into each other on Instagram and connecting there and then working together a little bit we developed this friendship where we're able to understand each other in a context that is not necessarily common so like for so many friends and family who are very dear to me and who I love very much um it's very difficult to describe what it's like to have so much of your business operate online right so for me like having a friend having Maggie as a friend has been just an absolute game changer and just knowing like in very few words I can explain like something that's going on and she knows that yep yes I agree with that and I think that's so important you need that person that understands it is a whole different world and it's something my family doesn't relate to or understand so I mean it is important I agree okay so a big theme for today's conversation and something that I think Maggie brings to the table better than anyone else I know is kind of like what I was describing earlier about what you see when you go to her Instagram the approachability of how she crafts a home this concept that instead of just working on your home that you're actually making your home work for you and so let's make let's talk a little bit about how can someone do that you know we're looking at our house we see all these projects we see all these things that we want to change how do we make our homes work for us that is such a good question and I think we really have to take a look at how we live and what our daily routine looks like because you need to think about ways that you can make that routine easier for you through your home so I don't know how do you use your home maybe you have a large family and it's home base you know for however many children and you know like in my situation four children dogs husband it's just it's home base that's you know maybe you work long hours you're coming home and you need a sanctuary where you can just kind of sink into something comfortable and have quiet and relax you know maybe you entertain a lot maybe you cook a lot think about how your home can work for you and your daily routine so thinking about you know myself here with a large family everything in our house is family friendly like fabrics rugs furnishings it has to be family and life friendly because we're messy for children dogs like I woke up yesterday and the dog had been on the new sectional which is white and there were paw prints all over it and you know thankfully I chose this performance fabric so I knew I could just get a wet damp cloth and wipe it up and it was gone it was out so so it really worked it does work it works it's so important to you know when you're making these selections for your home when it's you know furnishings fabrics I really like to select things that I know will withstand the elements of my family in my home it's just we're on a farm our mudroom has mud in it like that was hard for me for a while but that's the purpose of that space oh yes that's pretty true that's the whole point of a mud room right so I think um
you know we have life happens and between children's and pets and adults we are human we're making messes every day like that's just part of life so you kind of have to surrender to that and then make choices for your home that will make life easier when those things happen and so that's been a big focus around our house like I would hate to have something too precious yeah somebody to sit in you know and to be enjoyed because you know it was extremely expensive and it's breakable and that just doesn't that doesn't work in our home so you're talking about how you can problem solve essentially ahead of time prevent problems instead of prevent behaviors that are natural to the how a family is going to operate and constantly be you know yelling at people to take off their shoes and do this and do that and get off this couch and whatever like don't break the lamp instead be intentional about planning your space I love that one issue though that we I think run into sometimes as moms when we're attempting to make our homes more family friendly is reliability so when something is supposed to be washable and then you buy it and it turns out it's not so one thing I really love Maggie that you offer and again why I think everyone should be following you at Margaret of York on Instagram is because you actually test these products so for example if someone's looking for a white sectional that they can actually sponge off and they don't have to sit there and wonder is this you know seven grand just essentially like I think I'm getting a washable couch and I'm really not right you can just take your lead on it and just be like having that peace of mind yeah it's gonna work I also think it's really good to research before you purchase so I did a lot of research on for examples like my sofa has perennials fabric on it so I got on their website I spend some time I watch the videos I watch the care videos and yeah they do make it look really easy so the next step order swatch from the company and then test it yourself and see how you know the elements maybe that you're bringing into your home every day or you might not want to be bringing in but they are coming um how easily that those wipe up or clean up for you and see you know then you can just put it to the test before you make that big purchase so yeah maggie how does someone well some swatches you can just order from a website as your average joe why did somebody get a swatch if that's not an option um well then they if are you saying more like to the trade or yes they can contact you know if they have a designer they can contact the designer and the designer can get you know order it for them or they there are times I think you can reach out to the company and actually get swatches but some so I don't know that's a tricky question well I think the point that I'm trying to surface here is that if you haven't worked with an interior designer before you may not even realize that um rug samples that textile samples yeah are even available to you if you um if you don't see them online on a website where you can just add them to your ads so that's always always the case yeah most big box stores you should be able to get a swatch of the fabric so cool and not only do you want it to see you know if it's if you're going to be able to wash it up easily but it's nice to actually see the color in person a lot of times online it's just not the same it is not at all the same I had for example I had a um swatch I thought was a blue I ordered and it was definitely a green oh so yeah and even photographed it looks more blue but in real life it it's green so yeah you know bottom line get the swatch I think so many people jump into these things without a plan I know it takes more time to order a swatch but it really is important so yeah and between just the standard of any furniture that's customized um that you know it's made for your order you're going to be waiting anyways so as well yes exactly you might as well so often times we run into this situation where we just have this huge laundry list of projects that we want to approach how do you recommend someone figure out what to focus on what to do first so this kind of goes with what I was just talking about but also like I think it's important to identify the stressors in your home and the the areas that you really I think I think it's important to look at the areas that are causing the most problems or issues yeah and you know start there um but with that being said I also love just creating a good base throughout the entire home and I think there's like two ways you can approach this here um I think paint is so inexpensive and such an easy way to get started if you don't have a lot of hard scapes that you need to tackle first tell me a little bit about what you mean when you say hardscapes so like yours your hard surfaces in your house and like your tile your flooring um you know countertops cabinetry um moldings and things like that it's really good to establish a good base with that first if you're doing you know if if you're doing somewhat of a renovation maybe you're not you know tearing down walls but you're wanting to refresh the whole space start with those first because once you have a good base for your home you get those hard services you know done finished and then you come in and you do your paint your wallpaper then it's easier to pull everything together to bring in your furniture and your different pieces um so often I have met with people and we will be talking about a renovation and then the next thing I know they've run out to target and filled their cart and then they're swimming and they're like this lamp or this one I'm like we aren't there yet guys hold on let's get the hard stuff down first because let's lay the foundation for your home and so I really think that's a good place to start kitchen obviously always I mean a kitchen is important part of the home but I also see how many people neglect the primary bedroom and they leave that like for last and that is such an important space because that is where we're resting we're sleeping we're recovering like you know make it make it a sanctuary make it a nice relaxing space for you so yeah you know this is so important because I know that when people heard you just talk about filling their card at target that that resonates we're all guilty of that well we all want that quick fix right like we look on our houses sometimes and we're like oh like I need this to change right now and we the truth is we can't like decorate ourselves out of it we have to we've run into a lot of problems I mean all are guilty of it but there will be times that you know somebody will get an idea and they're like okay I'm gonna I'm gonna create this project I'm gonna do this and they just jump into it without a plan yeah and then they're just making random purchases and they're not measuring or they're not thinking about scale and then they get everything in the space and they're like this isn't this isn't working so it is really good to have a plan it takes time but you'll feel better about it when you execute it so yeah so hopefully you're encouraged then to actually you know like get your inspiration go to Pinterest go you know scroll Instagram but then think first like Maggie said about what problems do you actually need to solve what base parts do you actually need to address first before you go into decoration mode right yeah yeah and so and then Maggie maybe then it's not always the case that it's about which room um maybe sometimes it's about you know painting throughout or flooring throughout yeah for sure I really think that that you know like I said that lays the foundation for your home it's a good base and then then you have more direction where to start instead of entering the next room and being like ugh you know I hate this this and this about it and it's like the whole room is something that you don't enjoy when the next room is so shiny and pretty you want it too slow you want your transitions to flow and so if you are doing all of your hardscapes in the beginning and working on your paint all at one time then things are more likely to flow from one room to the next and they're speaking to each other in this way where and it's just a happier environment mm-hmm yeah yeah I'm really personally just taking all this to heart it's making me think a lot about our next steps and um I think I'm definitely guilty of um like going ham in one particular area and then having that moment of okay well now this is like my new favorite room but I would just live in this room well it's like I remember I've you know done the same thing and I in the past I remember robbing one room of all the beautiful elephants yes oh my gosh I do have to and then walking back to that room like this is so sad now yeah so I don't know totally there are certain items yeah I mean and I think like you and I have this in common too because sometimes we move things around for photography or video purposes for our content and that's just part of the thing but with certain items it's like man like I really don't know where it's going to land because I just really like it I really like it do we need to make another purchase do we need two of them one another totally look there are a couple of accessories oh my gosh I know we both have this book um the Mark D. Sikes Beautiful book that should just be another time yeah like forever toting that one around yes the bar cart the bar cart can literally go anywhere the great thing about the bar cart is it's on wheels and you do follow me you've seen my bar cart a lot but it's on wheels so if you're entertaining you can pull it out to that space you know if you need it as a nightstand you can put it next to your bed it's on wheels it's it's a neutral element and so it just has been one of those items that has worked so well in my house in so many different spaces and when it is January and you're wanting to refresh your spaces I mean sometimes it's a good it's a good thing to start with what you already have you know so you can move things around you just got to make sure that each room has balance and then you're not walking into that room where that item once was and now sad that it's gone so you know yes okay all right I love this so much to work with so much to think about and ways to just improve our day-to-day quality of life I'm really loving this episode okay so tell us a little bit about what a typical day looks like for you okay well if it's not freezing out and the kids are in school typically well let's start at the beginning I wake up at 4:45 which I know yes I know it sounds insanely early but I go I do go to bed at like 8:30 so I am getting plenty of sleep right there I'm a morning person and my kids wake up early so I have to get a head start like if they wake up before me it's already over like it's just you know you just it's gonna be like so um I get up at 4:45 I make my coffee I sit in the quiet for a little bit um I usually take a few moments to just sit and think about my day it's almost like somewhat of a meditation for me um think about how I want my day to look and what I need to do you know to have a good day to get through it with the children thinking about the schedules and then I usually do my morning post that's always just been my my routine I always post first thing in the morning and I check my emails and then I get the kids ready for school take them to school then I usually have a workout so I love nothing more than to just go for a run in my hometown that that's one of my favorite things about the morning right now it is so cold I am not doing that so if I'm not doing that I'm gonna hop on the peloton or go to a class so um after that typically I just try to get all the hard work done between that time and two o'clock so that's you know computer work or maybe it's getting ready for a photo shoot or if I'm working on a client project all of that's happening during that during that time and then once I get the kids home from school I try really hard to not work as much as possible I mean if it's like an email here or there that's fine but I'm trying to spend that time with them doing helping with homework you know this after school snack getting dinner ready um maybe watching a movie with them and that has been like all along my big that that's been important to me because now I wanted to be the one to pick them up at school and then have that time so yeah and I go to bed at 8:30 so yeah yeah no joke that is oh gosh yeah that sounds actually just blissful one thing that I've always known about you too is that you really enjoy the dinner making process right yeah I do um I'm trying to get back into that a little bit more so work kind of took over for a while and got to the point where that felt hard and that was when I was like okay I got to change something here because this has always been one of my favorite parts of the day like you know a playlist lighting a candle maybe having to go off the wine and cooking and that that is like the evening routine that I love so much so that started becoming a chore I was like okay we got to think about things here and slow down a little bit because that is something that I'd really love to do so yeah yeah yeah I love that too I think um I share that vision with you and um and try really hard to operate in the same manner um I've created a schedule to have it be so that I pick up the kids from school and that have that block of time too you know I think it's important for people to hear that because you know for me at a desk job for many many years and not getting home until like six o'clock or something I I used to think the only people who got to be with their kids after school were stay at home moms or right who didn't work and actually there is just a lot of nuance and possibility in something in the middle yeah and you know I like that you're kind of putting an example out there you know you are following um a dream that you're passionate about you're watching as a morphs over the years but the things that are really important to you your personal values you're maintaining and when you notice that things are getting out of sync you're making changes to get them back on track right yeah yeah because you can't I mean otherwise overall then everything just kind of falls apart I mean not falls apart but you know you need you need that balance to keep every area of your life life healthy so yeah and doing what works for you specifically as an individual eight you know the 4:45 wake up and the 8:30 bedtime work well with you know how your body functions like that is feels healthy for you and um and you've taken time to really identify that and to identify that routine of getting ready having the quiet time being awake before the kids are awake that routine of exercising once the kids are dropped off I mean you've been doing these things since first as many years as I've known you yeah um and I think sometimes when someone hasn't found their groove yet um we look first to what should I do versus like what will really work for me and for my family and um I love how your example is a little bit untraditional you know what I mean like it's even earlier than someone might think but you know what that works for you it works for me for sure so as long as you're getting your eight hours of sleep actually it's probably more like seven most of the time but
we're making sure you're resting so yeah sure yes okay so it's awesome hearing about your day and I think really encouraging let's move into the next segment which is called this or that yes yes okay so just tell me the answer that seems most right on for you maybe both are you know have some truth to them but let's pick a favorite okay okay read a book or listen to a playlist oh gosh okay this is tough because I love both so I think I would love to turn on a good playlist and then read a really good coffee table book while I'm listening to that playlist like a good design book like a beautiful coffee table yes full of interiors does that was reading actually yes and that's a great idea and I should try that yes it's lovely so yeah just like a full sensory experience yes yes yes cup of coffee I mean perfect Saturday morning right yeah actually that sounds great I know okay um I am who I am or I'm always evolving I'd say I'm always evolving I think that 100% just always always something new is always changing coming up and I like that so yeah totally keeps things interesting right yes yes okay go on an adventure or stay in and relax oh gosh probably stay in and relax like yeah I'm a homebody through and through so I would stay in yeah okay re-watch favorites or search for a new show re-watch favorites for sure really yes okay I'm actually kind of surprised by that one is there one that comes to mind though oh gosh um well You've Got Mail is always just like easy to turn on either while you're working or wanting to just sit and watch and just you know we actually we in the Winter we watch a lot of old classic movies actually we just watched baby boom the other day which is such an old one
so funny such a good movie but it's so funny with like the 80s saxophone playing in every scene yeah but no we love we love watching old movies and we love introducing them to our kids too so if they're appropriate that is yeah that is so funny you know it's so funny because I think there's so much that we miss when we're kids that um then like watching the movie back as an adult we realized like okay there's a lot going on here that I didn't realize because the last time I saw this I was nine and I didn't understand that they were talking about this naughty thing totally that totally happens no we um we watched Father of the Bride with our kids the other day and they loved it they loved that movie oh I'm writing this down right now that is so fun yes and then my daughter went like proceeded to binge watch you know Father of the Bride 2 and then Nancy Myers did the third last year the the like really short film that she did last year yeah that's right yeah no there actually was one it was last Fall I had this like two months where I turned on a fun classic movie in the background while I was working every day like I did a different one every day it was like going to dry bar but in the office yeah chick flicks playing so I love that that's like some really nice background that really sets a tone it did and I was I mean I was definitely like selective with what I was watching I had to have like a really great set be inspiring but no it was it was fun so I love that yeah okay cool all right the more the merrier or more fun with the fewer oh gosh okay well I want to say the more the merrier but not really
I don't like to exclude people ever ever ever um but I really like small crowds like I would choose an intimate dinner over a big party any day so I don't know fewer yeah for sure so um here for humor or please be serious oh humor we all need to laugh we need to laugh more so yeah and I'm getting too serious so okay so we're going to jump into rapid fire yeah I'm going to ask you a few short questions so that we get to hear about um some of your favorite things and recommendations okay so what is something that you have read lately that you would recommend oh um well I'm currently reading a book by Lalah Delia called Vibrate Higher Daily um and I love it it's about living with intention through vibrational base livings like the power of your thoughts and choosing the positive energies over the negative and how it affects your daily life so that that's a great book it's a fast read um and I would definitely like I am almost finished with it but I would definitely recommend that for everybody yeah so yeah well I'm for sure going to read it then you've never steered me wrong I've I've actually had quite a few book recommendations from Maggie that I've loved so if you're listening you've got to pick it up too no because I don't read that often but yeah so when I do you recommended a few that I've left like um I know Eve Rodsky who was
yes yes that was a great book so I'm excited to start her next book so yes Find Your Unicorn Space for sure which is very much in line with what this podcast is all about yes yeah yes I would agree so yes okay what is something that you've watched recently that you've enjoyed oh gosh um okay I am this is like cheesy go for it list but I have Emily in Paris so I'm in the second season right now and I do it when I'm folding laundry I watch it it's like an easy you know I'm there for the fun fashion and it's just a good easy show to watch so yeah it's it is super fun I've seen the I saw the first season and I've actually been waiting to start the second one um because I have a feeling I'm going to want to like fly through it I know it is it does go quickly shorter there's shorter episodes so but yeah do that while I fold laundry so then I don't like feel as guilty about taking that time to watch something but oh yeah yeah absolutely but yeah that is a fun one yeah and Lily Collins is adorable she's adorable for sure so yeah yeah okay um now outside of your primary work that we kind of talked about so far is there any hobby or interest that you've been getting into lately oh gosh I feel like I have a million um oh that's a great answer I actually love that and you're like well I don't I don't know okay my mom taught me a needlepoint when I was a little girl so that was always something I love to do if I have the time it's very relaxing to me um I love working in the yard it's too cold right now but we do have a greenhouse so working in the greenhouse if I get a chance to go out there um but I do love working in the yard planting flowers like that's always I don't know just something about being outside and working in the soil it's just a good good feeling and I love cooking and I love I love you know exercising and
things like that a lady with many interests yes recently during the pandemic my mom um taught me how to play mahjong so saturday nights we were getting together my mom my aunt and my sister and I and doing that and that was a lot of fun we haven't played in a while but that was fun I love everything about that like yeah the whole vibe the whole aesthetic I remember learning about mahjong a little bit reading an amy tan book many many years ago like probably two decades ago and being very enamored it's fun it's addicting it's a lot of fun to play yeah oh and what was it in recently um uh Crazy Rich Asians did you ever see the movie yes that's a fabulous movie yes also very visually stunning yes yes oh my god yeah but I remember seeing mahjong down there and being like yeah we wanted to know how to so is it challenging like how long does it take to learn I was really surprised that I picked up as quickly as I did at first it felt overwhelming to me I was like oh but no you pick up quicker than you think and it's it's a lot of fun so especially if you're playing with you know if you have a fun group of people to play with it's fun yeah always key for game night for sure yeah okay is there some favorite thing a product an app a tool something that you would recommend to a friend or a colleague that just improves life I should like have a handful of these off the top of my head but um
there's nothing I can think of because you were just holding it a minute ago what was that a fantastic Stanley thermos I believe oh yes no this is the best it's huge I love this so much um also you know what I this is really silly but recently I my mom gave me this little stand to put my phone on and I don't know why but that I feel like that at my desk has been a big improvement rather than my phone laying flat here um I mean I should have like my coffee frother my milk frother I couldn't go without that each day like that is one of my favorite things in the morning so yeah totally totally what a quality of life when that is no sample level okay so we think we kind of know a person when we get to see their life play out to some degree on Instagram or on social media whatever so I love this question because it kind of reminds us that there's just there's more behind the scenes there's just always more so what is something that people would be surprised to learn about you
I'm terrified of heights terrified terrified of heights I know like that's crazy but no I am I really am scared of heights um so much that one time on site I was at a site visit my husband was with me and I had to climb the ladder to go up to the second floor which I think was only a 10-foot ceiling so I'm only 10 feet off the the ground but I could not go back down the ladder I was I mean like I froze I couldn't do it I panicked like panic set and my husband got a forklift and put a pallet on it and came over because there was no wall up still yeah came over they put me on the pallet on the forklift and like
can't do it I mean like I will freeze I will panic I will freeze I and this happens a lot at site visits actually so when I get up on the second floor and the railings aren't up yet and the walls aren't up yet I get very like I don't even know what the word is but panicky yeah as I was going to say yeah panic attack but I like I get nervous like really kind of scared and nervous so yeah I'm terrified of heights I just yeah actually question then when you see other people go to the edge of something oh does that bother you too yes oh my gosh I mean with my kids always I've been like that I just like even just at the top of the stairs I panic so yeah like step back
I don't yeah gently well with that so yeah okay this is actually so I didn't know this about you before just now um but this is really funny to me Maggie because this is actually um a big thing for my husband Dan as well you're listening I hope you don't kill me but um yeah like one of his hugest pet peeves in life is seeing other people on the edge of something steep like yeah yeah it's him no like all these people in the Grand Canyon with their phones and they're like you know taking a selfie at the edge of the cliff and I'm like oh my gosh I just wait for what I don't know I can't do it the risk I cannot do it so yeah oh my gosh that's so funny okay so last question finish this sentence you'll never see me
propelling off a mountain skydiving
bungee jumping none of that no no oh my goodness okay so I guess you could never be a Bachelor contestant no oh no no way I mentioned this because the new season just started and it seems like they always have an element of height yes they do and I remember when I used to watch it I was thinking oh my gosh like I would be so mad if somebody forced me to do that so man
so I don't know I need to work on that my son got a VR for Christmas and I did do the plank which is like a terrifying terrifying experience like I had to like what is the plank I have no idea what you're talking about so it's a game on the VR where you are on in a skyscraper and you walk out on like a plank over you know your own hundreds of stories up in the air and it it I mean it just I start sweating and I was panicking do it I cannot do it and I had to take it off so oh my gosh but it sounds like cried over therapy maybe I need to do the VR more often and try to overcome it or maybe you are afraid of the correct things because they're actually dangerous right oh I just yeah I don't know yeah I was that like the the fear of heights generally because like well well like I definitely share it I don't I wouldn't say like in an extreme way but to me it's like a no-brainer like you should be afraid of falling to your dog right I know and I think for me I didn't realize how afraid I was of heights until I was an adult and going like on these site visits and then realizing that there's no railing and looking down two stories and oh yeah it would like set in where I'd be like like suddenly I would kind of get almost vertigo-y it's strange I didn't realize it until like more recently but nope not doing it not doing it not doing it oh my goodness no well I'm really happy that you did do this podcast episode today it's been thank you thank you so much this was so fun all right guest ever so thank you I'm so glad it was with you such an honor hopefully you'll be back in the future yes for sure you can connect with Maggie York on Instagram @margaretofyork to get incredible home and lifestyle inspiration as well as incredibly practical tips on making your home work for you with practical strategies and beautiful styling thank you for tuning in if you enjoyed your time with us today please share this episode with a friend then subscribe follow leave a comment or give us a five star review as I mentioned this episode marks the end of season one but I'll be back before you know it with more chats with top authors experts and influential personalities we'll be serving up simplified applied psychology habit theory and quality of life tips and tricks that you can put into action right away until season two I'm Kate Hammer and You Know How To Live
