Hello and welcome to the You Know How To Live Show my name is Kate Hammer and today we will have with us TJ Therrien TJ is a social media based comedian and content creator he leads with family and birth order humor producing skits viewed and shared by millions of people on Instagram and TikTok TJ also leads a creative team at one of the largest churches in America plus he serves as a longtime bat boy for the Minnesota Twins baseball team now wherever you are listening or watching from I am so glad that you tuned in and are hanging out I hope you are ready for my favorite combination of things hopefully a bit of entertainment and of course takeaways on how to improve how you work and play and do everything you do in between please take a moment now to subscribe follow leave a comment or give a five star review so that we can stay connected and with that let's bring in TJ Therrien TJ hey Kate how's it going it's going great and hey not to sidetrack us right out of the gate but I love the intro video that you had and I couldn't help but notice we share the same Yeti mug I mean so cheers anyway a classic navy blue you know it's really on brand for you for sure yeah just a great mug it is doesn't affect the temperature of your hand assures the temperature of the inner contents you know how to live you know oh my goodness yes I love how you're just jumping into the whole vibe right out of the gate um so TJ I've known you for a while I imagine that some people who are listening will feel the same way that they've known you for a while because of the way that you engage on social media but for anyone who does not would you share with us a little bit about your presence on Instagram and TikTok the type of humor that you offer and why
yeah why I don't know I might need a therapist to uncover the why behind it no I started making TikTok videos as a creative outlet over a year ago and just good clean funny deals about parenting and having kids and then I started to really dig into birth order and I made some birth order videos highlighting the differences between firstborns middle children and youngest children because I find that stuff fascinating and I watch my own kids and they're just all so different and amazing in their own ways but so I started making videos about birth order and people really seem to start resonating with it so over the last year as you know I've been cranking out so many and having a blast I'm making a lot of videos on TikTok and on Instagram um and now I'm just trying to to keep it going because I'm having a blast uh it's so fun to hear from other parents who relate to them and short form video is a ton of fun and it's not super taxing so that's what I've been doing yeah so you did this you know you wanted to just try a thing right you're like I think this would be funny I'm gonna share this with the world a little bit see what happens it's hilarious because when I first got on TikTok my assumption about TikTok was that it's full of young people who are going to reject me they're actually like me and uh so I kind of I kind of slowly got in and started you know watched some videos like okay I think I can I think I can hang here and I start putting videos out and then the beautiful thing about TikTok is that it finds your audience for you so somehow the I started to realize like oh there's a lot of people like us it's not just all young people not that we're not young uh but yeah I kind of just started trying trying it and you you we've gotten to know each other pretty well like I'm one to have an idea and then just do it and pursue it um I try not to get bogged down with the how but I just want to kind of get my feet wet which once in a while might backfire but I would say more times than not it's just good to do it yeah totally uh but yeah I've got my feet wet and I found some momentum I found a niche and then I just kind of focused in and parenting humor has been my thing yes 100% and as you mentioned it's really resonated for people so much so that in addition to consuming your content watching these skits that you create these hilarious TikToks and Reels they have been sharing their personal experiences with you so can you kind of tell me a little bit about this phenomenon of receiving content from the other side parents sending you what they're filming of their kids it was the wildest thing one one day after a couple of months of making these videos somebody sent me an idea based on their own house they were like hey you're not going to believe this my firstborn did this my middle child did this my youngest child did this and they're like you should totally make a video like that and I'm like I will because I need more ideas and it was perfect and I made that that video I don't remember what it was but then it started to become a normal thing where parents would send me ideas based on what was happening in their homes and then kids started sending me ideas which was even cooler like that was so wild to get ideas from kids on on birth order videos um and and then it kind of grew into on Instagram what's really cool is uh the community that can form on Instagram you know when people tag you in a story or or that kind of a thing um people started posting pictures or videos of their families and then tagging tagging me and I could reshare so all all of a sudden like what I thought was uh unique to my house with my kids and making videos about them suddenly became this humongous community of parents and we're all looking at each other on on social media like oh my goodness we're more similar than we're not uh and every kid is unique but uh one special thing that just to kind of uh highlight you know the similarities yet we're so different a mom from the Caribbean reached out to me and had three boys and here I'm a I'm a dad who lives in Minnesota very Norwegian like and here's a mom in the Caribbean with three so like our our lives probably don't look a ton the same however she reached down said my goodness I can't tell you how much I relate to your videos and what a cool way to bring people together from completely different parts of the world um so it's a pretty special thing for me too to be a part of yeah absolutely and what a fun realization in real time because it's not like you sat there and we're brainstorming a list of oh what could I do that will resonate with people you know I think sometimes when we're kind of brainstorming like uh whether it's for a business or for a hobby or for a way to get out there we're like thinking through what is gonna happen and what are the possibilities for you it was more just like I want to do this and it just worked and you were able to uncover that not only does this work like it actually makes people feel really happy really seen um and it has become like this family activity even so not only are you know the reason why kids are sending you their ideas is because they're watching your videos with their parents right so like yeah from family experience it blows my mind it blows my mind and it's I personally it's actually really fulfilling which for whatever reason it's really fulfilling to know that um and anybody can do anybody everybody creates in some fashion right and I happen to make these videos that when families will watch them together or kids laugh and you know one of one of the things with my videos is everything is family friendly so I'll never do anything that will shock a kid or be crude humor like that kind of a thing and there's plenty of that out there um but yeah it's really special for me and really fulfilling to know that families enjoy watching my videos and to take it a step further I think it's not because of me I actually think it's because they are seeing their own family in this piece of content and that's that's why they relate to it they love it they share it and again it's actually more about them than it is about me which is kind of a special thing it takes me out of the spotlight I guess in my mind yeah absolutely one favorite activity seems to be when people will send you a video and ask you to evaluate which which child is this of mine this is the oldest middle or youngest child and they'll be doing some sort of thing that is true to the nature of that birth order um how has that led to how you see youngest children middle children oldest oldest children like what how would you describe any of those three or all of those three learning what you've learned over the last year or so yeah well the asterix on this is that every child is unique and different and I would hate to stereotype anybody but let's go ahead and stereotype them I think a firstborn is very much a rule follower want to do things the right way we're not going to cut corners we're going to take our time you know there if you look on the wall at the art projects those are the ones that uh we're coloring in between the lines not past the lines uh they are the ones that might tend to say please or thank you a little bit more not that the others would wouldn't uh but yeah more the rule followers the middle children it's just so funny because parents all the time have their first child and from a parenting perspective like you are following the rules like you've read the books you've listened to the podcast you you're like okay I'm I'm learning how to be a parent and we're going to stick to the routines we're going to put the kid to bed at the same time napping feeding everything and maybe that influences why the firstborn becomes a little bit more regimented too because like they were parented that way yeah then the middle child comes and when that middle child becomes maybe two or three that second born a lot of parents are like what am I doing wrong what is wrong with this child this child is nothing like the firstborn the firstborn was great was perfect this one won't sleep this one won't listen this one is like digging for snacks all the time yeah definitely digging for snacks all the time yes our middle child is just so fun and adventurous and and goofy and motivate motivated by things completely different than the firstborn firstborn likes to know what the plan is the middle child doesn't want there to be any plans she she just wants to like do whatever whenever she wants yeah uh so that's unique then as the parents start to grow tired a lot of parents have a third child and this might be the youngest if it's your last one and from a parenting perspective you're starting to relax a little bit you're starting to realize like okay I got this we're and you're busy too like you're dividing and conquering his parents and your attention is everywhere you don't have the energy to fight the battles with the third child that you did with the first child and now we're breaking rules and we're letting things go and we're like well okay you're not gonna eat that for dinner what can I make you what are you gonna eat you know when you okay we don't have to go to bed yet so you start breaking these rules and then the youngest being the youngest the lowest the lowest on the totem pole they have older siblings so the cards are stacked against them so while they're also being parented in a more relaxed way they're also fighting for their territory and the youngests interestingly have a conviction about them in a passion that that is really unique um and I would say it might have something to do with the birth order but it's fascinating it's really fascinating stuff to me yeah absolutely I think one thing that I really appreciate about the way you explain uh birth order is that you don't just go for the negative you have a lot of compassion for each child and and how even the things that they do that we might think of as negative or problematic um that there's actually like a bright side to even those things so for example the middle child if they're just all over the place and flailing and being nuts that they also have this ability to like bring magic and fun and possibility and wonder to the mix as well so I really enjoy how you're able to show both sides of the coin and not just like dig in on the negative because humor can go there often um it's easy but you don't stay there and that's fun yeah and that's like a fear that I have is because a lot of kids do watch my videos a fear I have is like a six-year-old middle child is going to watch my videos and start to subconsciously think oh that's who I am that's who I am that's where I'm supposed to be and almost like a false identity like I don't so I try not yeah I don't want to get negative and also your youngest child is that right you got it up too so you of course you're going to enjoy the fact that I don't make you look too bad right I do yes absolutely you are talking about birth order a lot in your social media accounts you also talk about it in a podcast that you've had going on for the past couple months maybe even longer now what is this podcast who hosts it with you and what else is it about outside of birth order uh yeah we started me and my wife Melissa started a podcast called The Funny Thing About Parenting and we have 30 some episodes now we do one a week and we are our the identity of the podcast we didn't have it right out of the gate honestly we were we knew that we we just wanted to muse on parenting from a light-hearted perspective there's a lot of great really helpful in in informative um parenting podcasts out there and we didn't think that was really our lane as much as um maybe a more relaxed entertaining side of parenting and with kind of the shadow mission of helping parents who feel like their house is crazy helping them feel more normal and like hey it's okay and then and then through mixing in some helpful tips that we've learned along the way we have four kids um so we we are not experts in parenting but over the last you know decade we've been learning different things along the way yeah so that's what it's about and my wife Melissa hates hearing her own voice and re-doing the podcast and so what I do is I don't put any pressure on her I surprise her every week with what the content is which actually terrifies her yeah I was going to say I don't I don't know if that actually takes the pressure off but I mean I guess it's like however you see it right like if you every week she said we need to plan this out better TJ I said I'm a middle child I don't I don't know if I can I need help with planning yeah well I mean you got to do what feels natural for you when you're recording something because gosh if you're somebody who doesn't work well on script then that would come off as like super robotic and uncomfortable and no one wants it anyways we don't try to cover too much ground but we do we did we talk about different topics like hey our when our kids get in a fight with each other how do we how do we handle that and what what's working and what's not working um uh when we see neighbor friends starting to get phones for their kids at a at a well we would think as a younger age than maybe we're comfortable with how are we gonna deal with that and what are we what are we learning from other parents so we're trying to just talk about what we're experiencing and it's probably aimed more for younger parents um but yeah we're really enjoying it it's been kind of a fun side project yes awesome so if you haven't checked it out yet The Funny Thing About Parenting we'll make sure we throw a link in the show notes for anyone who wants to give it a listen awesome thanks Kate yeah so TJ we're talking about what you do on social media the podcast that you have out you know I also know you have a full-time job and a really fun little side hustle job that we'll have to talk about too
so let's let's tell people okay well actually like what is this full-time job that you have what's this other little thing that I'm hinting toward and then we'll kind of get into how do you make that all happen because like you said you have four children this is kind of a lot so I'm gonna ask you a little bit about your habits and your morning routine but but for anyone who isn't aware TJ can you tell us about what do you do during your nine to five what do I do my nine to five so over the last 13 years I have been on staff at a church in the Twin Cities it's a multi-site church and I lead a creative team so we do a lot of video work and some graphic design and motion design I lead that team and I call them storytellers and we find different stories happening within the community within the church that are inspiring and we do some funny things too to kind of lighten up church because it all doesn't have to be so serious all the time but uh yeah I love what I do so I've been there for for a long time my side hustle which I've been doing for a decade um the nine-year-old version of me would would have its mind blown knowing that I have this part-time job but I am a ball boy for the Minnesota Twins which means during the games I'm one of those guys sitting on a stool down the foul line with a helmet on and a glove on and I chase down foul balls and throw them to the crowd way too fun I don't know how you work this out but this is fantastic yeah and I used to do a lot more games once we started having kids I've scaled back quite a bit and I'm I'm pretty selective with the amount that I work I've had to scale back and over the last year doing a lot of videos on social media which actually is a lot more work than I ever thought it would be um so yeah I'm really busy and we have four kids who are in the thick of it with sports nine and under um yeah you do lots of coaching right some coaching so there's a lot to juggle for sure yeah there is but you do all of these things because you love it right you know I do find a way I do and I also I I'm really big at knowing what's most important and then knowing what's second most important and then um kind of like a bullseye like I see my family in the middle of my bullseye um so I don't as much as possible I want to prioritize and schedule first that middle the bullseye and for me that's that's my family um and then after that when it comes to work I have a full-time job that I'm committed to I have a side hustle in social media which is becoming more than more than a side hustle it's become an additional full-time job and then I have these other things that I do too um so I guess I say no to a lot of things or I um you know um because I what I don't want to do is burn myself out or starting giving my family the leftovers of my burnt out life um so try to be as selective as I can yeah absolutely so in order to get your day off on the right foot what does an ideal morning look like for you I think there's a lot of curiosity around how someone who's able to juggle a variety of things such as yourself how what that morning looks like because I think we have this in our imagination that someone who's doing all of the things has a serious morning routine what's yours look like walk us through okay this is called me time this is me time every parent needs the me time okay it has been my goal for several years to get a little me time when I wake up um what I do I do like the same exact you follow me around my muscle movements are the exact they're identical for the first two hours of my day and then I don't try to be a robot but it's just like I stick to what works I don't have to think about it I just go um right when I wake up I chug a bunch of water and then I go for a run how how far do I run you ask 2.8 miles precisely precisely 2.8 why do you run 2.8 miles well last year I ran 2.7 miles every day and the year before that was 2.5 miles it's my goal every year to run more miles in one year than I did the year before but I also don't want to spend 45 minutes running so I like just incrementally try to beat my goal and then yeah I make then the kids are getting up and after I go on my run and I love the morning time with the family making breakfast uh and seeing the kids before they go off to school and then after that my routine is over and we're just in the thick of it every day is a little bit different yeah although even part of your routine before the kids are gone don't you do a don't you have like some sort of tradition of making smoothies for you and for your wife I do yes I have we make I make a protein shake with the same exact ingredients every single day yeah I got it down to a science I am the most efficient protein shake maker in the Twin Cities I promise you oh wait so then I have to ask do you make both in the same blender and then just pour out your serving and hers or do you make yours and then make Melissa's or how does this all work Kate I make Melissa's first and oh wow you guys ladies first okay well it's also because if I made mine first I would be tempted to just walk away at that point so it's kind of like myself holding myself accountable yeah to make her breakfast it's the accountability shake method exactly so that's what I do yeah some would call it boring I would call it uh it helps my mental health just it's it's a way to get myself right in and I take some time too I try to read for 15 to 20 minutes in the morning but you know as the kids are waking up that kind of a thing too yeah yeah I love actually this element of not requiring any decision making I think many of us who have spent some time in adulthood realized that when we're asking ourselves questions like should I go to the gym today should I have a smoothie today we are more likely to end up on the wrong side of that answer so the fact that you have this routine and you just own it and you stick to it you're not lost in that decision-making process at all you get up you do your water thing your run thing your smoothie making thing kids off to school thing boom done you never had to wonder the the people who are at least at risk of of missing their routine in the morning are firstborns they they know what they got to do as a middle child I want to bail on everything last minute because something else looks more fun in the moment so it's like it it's a way to keep myself on track I need I need the plan because as a middle child I'll just get off track really easily if I'm not careful yeah so that's interesting so as a middle child do you feel like you kind of pull some things that you need from the oldest child lifestyle and yes the youngest child lifestyle totally and it's a lifestyle like as you grow older you kind of grow out of the you know you you evolve and you uh hopefully and you feel it you know you you max out your strengths you feel like your weaknesses hopefully yeah if you don't um but that's totally it for me like I've never been the most disciplined person so I learned that as a as a young adult and um thankfully I was able to like build in some discipline into my life because I knew that would be good for me and I needed it yeah yeah but I'm always stealing from first borns and youngest all the time yeah so I like the takeaways there keep your decisions few or none and stick with the same routine if it's working for you we don't yeah we don't need like fancy shiny new things like hey just basic is good check those boxes get it done um okay so we got your morning routine you have a lot that you're juggling as we talked about how do you ensure that you get the most important things done in a day and I'm not talking about um things that are not work related so obviously like you explained the family is at the center of your bull's-eye but outside of that where you have your work and these other ventures that you have going on how do you make sure that you get the most important things done first
um well I try to plan out two weeks at a time um you know you've got big things planned way out in the future you have to have things scheduled but I try to take two weeks at a time and know what my priorities are like what are my deadlines for things you know if I'm working on a sponsored video for a brand with my social media I know when my next big deadline is and then I'm going to work backwards but everything else with my family and my kids activities and my work everything else is already filled in so I can I can kind of work backwards you know like okay I've got that time free I'm gonna do it in that window that's my only shot um yeah so it's not rocket science but I guess I just try to know when my deadlines are and work backwards and I'm I'm not going to be one who schedules over a family thing or you know I don't I've been a big proponent of like I don't want to miss my kids growing up I don't want to miss their uh when my firstborn was going to graduate preschool and I didn't did you have preschool graduation I didn't have that uh not personally but my children did apparently there's a celebration for everything now everything like the cap and gown and everything like when I was in preschool they're like all right go to kindergarten you're good um or maybe I know what now I'm starting to feel bad maybe I did and I don't remember it and my parents were there and it and they thought it was going to matter to me and if that's true Mom and Dad thank you for your support okay go on thank you thank you Mom and Dad I'll take that certificate right next to my high school diploma but when Teddy our firstborn was about to graduate preschool I was gonna go and with my wife and and see the celebration they do a little song and dance and we take a picture after and that's it it's like a 20-minute thing well for my full-time job I had a meeting during that time and my plan was to to skip that meeting but as I got closer to that date I started to feel a pull like I should be at that meeting and I the morning of my plan was to go to that meeting but I had just this little gut like dude don't miss the moments you know and with I knew about what the middle of my bullseye was uh and I knew that you know in five years I wouldn't remember what we met about but I would remember going to my kids preschool graduation is uh you know as silly as that might sound um so I decided to bail on the meeting and I went to the preschool graduation and that was kind of like a marked moment for me because I was so grateful um that I did that and from there on out I kind of made I had a stake in the ground like I'm not gonna miss the moments for you know a meeting if I don't have to and obviously you need to balance work life um but that was kind of marked moment for me the next day I was at work and an older dad came up to me and he had no idea what I that I went to my kid's preschool but he just started telling me about how he misses his kids being young and specifically he talked about my kid was graduating kindergarten and I decided to not go to his graduation and I regret it to this day and I didn't even tell him like what I did the day before um so that was kind of the confirmation for me as you know as a parent as a dad who's got all these things going on I don't want to miss those things um so I just think it's so important I tell younger parents all the time you really got to prioritize and do your best to balance both worlds but at the end of the day push comes to shove do your best to not miss those most important things that on the calendar might not look like they're most important but they really are gotcha so what you're saying is work off of those things first find your blocks of time around those most important things yeah and it's going to be different for everyone maybe if you're starting a business you know your bullseye is gonna shift a little bit and you're gonna have to you're gonna have to put in the time and the effort so it's not always like well I'll just skip the meeting go to the kid thing that's not what it's always gonna look like but it's just knowing knowing what's most important and then work backwards just like you said yeah just like you said just like we said yeah
I wish I had my blue Yeti so that we could cheers but I don't
oh goodness all right let's move from this segment into another one called This or That so I'm going to pose two options and I would like you to tell me which one you tend toward of the two love it all right here we go read a book or listen to a playlist listen to a playlist I am who I am or I am always evolving
I am always evolving all right go on an adventure or stay in and relax ironically stay in and relax hey okay I was surprised there okay uh re-watch favorites or search for a new show re-watch favorites I when I when I'm scrolling through Netflix looking for something new I always end up with my safety blanket just back to the show that I love and adore that's me which is it's anything from Seinfeld to The Office to Comedians In Cars Getting Coffee I mean I just can't you can't go wrong yeah especially if you need a little levity and you're just like I'm trying to laugh here my day was hard just go to go back to what you know again maybe ironic as a middle child but that's what I do got it okay the more the merrier or more fun with fewer uh more fun with fewer yeah all right here for humor or please be serious here for humor absolutely yeah we knew that was coming all right cool all right third segment rapid fire I'm going to ask you some questions short answers if I ask any and you're like I don't know I don't have a great answer for that we can pass or not maybe maybe you'll have great answers for all of them I am so nervous ready and go okay something you've watched lately that you enjoyed um About Time the movie now this is not a new movie not a new movie right not a new movie but it it's a life changer in it's a paradigm shifter is a better way to say it why say more it makes you here's what we're talking about we're talking about how you spend your time yeah it's a movie that that makes you realize you might be spending your time in a way that you wish you weren't down the road oh that's heavy yeah this is too serious let's let's have some more fun what's the next question no no no I like I like it though I like that and I think it actually is very on brand for the show because this is what this is what we're trying to do right like we're all kind of recognizing that we would like to do a little bit better in the way that we manage our time so hey like maybe watching that movie could spur that feeling and and more of us so where can we find it do you happen to remember is it on uh I'm pretty sure it's on Netflix um Rachel McAdams is one of the stars can't go wrong with sweet old Rachel McAdams just very endearing a very endearing human being yeah absolutely okay we like it all right what about something you've read lately any books that you might recommend oh my goodness one of my favorite leadership probably my favorite leadership book and also as a huge Disney fan um Bob Iger the former CEO wrote a book called The Ride Of A Lifetime and he walks through his experience through his career but he talks a lot about the creative process he talks about what he learned along the way through the hard times and the good times really fascinating stuff love it not much I like more than a great book recommendation so I'll add that to the list very cool all right do you have a hobby or interest that you are spending time on these days um I like that question um not really I don't have a ton of time for hobbies what that's the thing like my hobby turned into a a job with social media like that I would have said like maybe yeah actually there's a hobby yeah um no these days my hobbies look like playing checkers with my kids or uh coloring and coloring books that's but oh I'll add this you know what I love I love to play wiffle ball there is nothing more fun to me than playing a game of wiffle ball in the neighborhood yeah that's classic so classic just old time well very old-timey I feel like you've got Cracker Jacks
just an old soul yeah all right can you tell us about a favorite thing maybe it's an app a product just something that you've been using and would recommend to a friend
um yeah probably I don't know um I think I would something I find very useful yeah is Spotify playlist uh uh Spotify and yeah kind of a weird answer but um no Spotify is the jam yes I use I use music very intentionally to help me focus like when I need to focus um sometimes like after we put the kids to bed I'll go for a walk around the neighborhood with something that's just like relaxing and helps me kind of exhale from the day yeah in the morning like when I'm making the protein shake and when the kid like I've got a different like kind of easy you know I don't I just use music really intentionally so that's is that a weird answer that I would say that no not at all because I think sometimes when we we think something is very well known and Spotify surely is it doesn't mean everybody's tried it so you know if you're still out there clunking around with CDs in your car whatever like it's time to give Spotify a try give it a shot and I never thought I'd pay monthly for the premium but I am fully in and it might be my favorite subscription that I have yeah I'm really there with you we we do the premium as well and it's it's it's much more immersive you don't have those moments of what is this random ad I mean getting to play what you want when you want it how can you argue with that but I'm not I'm not I'm also I've got some friends who are really into gadgets and like different things to make their life easier I'm just I've never fully gotten into that I don't love a lot of club like accumulating a lot of stuff yeah um so that's even a tricky question for me like what are you using I don't know I'm kind of a late adopter to a lot of things too um you know we don't have a toaster yet we're still kind of deciding if we want a toaster in our house yes that would be a very late adoption that is a joke yes
all right so what's something that people would be surprised to learn about you
um I don't I don't know I mean I'm a really sentimental person um as aloof as sometimes I appear to people or it's like dry as I appear to people sometimes um I don't know maybe it's just this season of of life where things are going well and our kids are at a kind of a nice age um we're kind of out of the diaper stages but we're not into the teen years yet um yeah I don't think I don't I think there's a lot of dads out there who are really sentimental kind of underneath the surface you don't they're not going to show it but yeah I would say I'm a softie when it comes to uh being a dad uh what else I don't know probably nothing I'm very uh particular about certain things which is so weird like if if this is this is gonna be nuts but if if Melissa folds a hand towel and puts it in in the closet and it's not just perfect um I will take it out and refold it and do it myself I just love it I love a perfect towel fold and you know what it's the one thing that you can fold perfectly it's a rectangle the corners match up yeah you have no idea how to respond to this well fair hey listen if you can if if you can then perhaps you should I mean listen the first thing I think of when I think about what what you really can't fold well is the classic fitted sheet scenario so yeah and frankly I just agree like I just I hear what you're saying I'm I'm um really into folding myself I spend a lot of time folding I'm not surprised by that hey we you know what I forgot to mention back to a previous question you and I share a passion around something we share a passion around a lot of things but uh when you ask me like when it comes to a TV show new or old yeah yeah you and I both rank this TV show as number one of all time The Wonder Years yeah tell us we're wrong come at us tell us we're wrong and have you tried the new Wonder Years it's not the same you're not going to get the same feelings but it's really great they do it well have you seen it yet no and I know I told you that I was going to and it is in my intention there's um I got a little sidetracked because Dan and I have been watching the new Dan Brown show on Peacock called The Lost Symbol and we are both big Dan Brown fans so that's been kind of the show of the moment but we're planning to circle back onto the new Wonder Years it'll happen have to I couldn't I couldn't let this episode on your podcast go any further without mentioning our love for The Wonder Years it's funny that you said that because I was really expecting you to go back to Spotify and mention John Mayer John Mayer would be a a close second yeah uh minor obsessions that you and I seem to share minor major who's to say
it's fine yeah yeah John Mayer can you come on my show and also TJ's show if you become a parent and have something to say about it
okay finish this sentence you'll never see me
you'll never see me jumping out of an airplane okay reasonable you'll never see me in the front row of a movie theater
you'll never see me you know what's funny I would have told you five years ago you will never see me drink coffee never and now I'm drinking five cups of black coffee every single day heavens to Betsy man so you never know what you will never see me doing because I might be doing it you'll never know oh yeah TJ remains a mystery okay so you learned what you learned today about TJ but that is surely not all which is why you'll probably want to stay in touch with him TJ if somebody would like to stay in touch with you and see all of this awesome family-friendly content how can they find you where are you um just search for TJ and my last name's Therrien you're gonna misspell it so don't even bother just search for TJ on Instagram and TikTok and hopefully you see my mug and uh that's probably the best place to find me um and I can't let you close this show without me saying how amazing you are at what you do we we first connected because you reached out about doing a video together we ended up doing several videos together that people really loved and it was a blast and then um we've just been keeping touch working on different things along the way and you are phenomenal at at what you do seeing the best in people you've got great wisdom so I am super excited that you have this podcast going now because you draw it out of other people and that's what a great place to do it on a podcast that is so wonderful to hear thank you for sharing those words thank you for spending the time with me here today to be a guest on the show it's been such a treat and I'm and I'm so glad you made the call back to some of the videos that we made together hopefully there are more in the future but yeah you guys got to go check these out they're on Reels oh man good times great times more more to come I'm sure but thank you yeah thank you for having me on and uh it's been a ton of fun the time flew by unfortunately but
all right thank you TJ to add levity and laughs to your daily scroll you can follow along with TJ on Instagram and TikTok with his handle @tj_therrien t-h-e-r-r-i-e-n
you can also find the links to his social media and podcast in the show notes thank you for tuning in if you enjoyed your time with us today please share this episode with a friend then subscribe follow leave a comment or give a five star review season one of the show will include more chats top authors experts and influential personalities we will be serving up simplified applied psychology habit theory and quality of life tips and tricks that you can put into action right away until next week I'm Kate Hammer and You Know How To Live!
