hello and welcome to the You Know How To Live show my name is Kate Hammer and in just a moment we will have Liz Vaccariello with us Liz is editor-in-chief for both REAL SIMPLE and SHAPE magazines REAL SIMPLE is one of the premier brands and women's lifestyle space with a print and digital reach of nearly 21 million meanwhile SHAPE has been in print for 30 years and continues to be the go-to authoritative voice for active women Liz previously led many of media's most recognizable brands including Parents, Prevention, and Readers Digest yep she's pretty amazing wherever you're listening or watching from I'm so glad that you're tuned in and hanging out I hope you're ready for my favorite combination of things hopefully a bit of entertainment and of course some takeaways to improve how you work and play and do all the things you do in between please take a moment right now to subscribe follow leave a comment or give a five star review so that we can stay connected and with that let's bring in Liz Vaccariello Liz thank you so much for being here today I'm so excited to talk with you I am such a fan I love that we're still meeting virtually but we're having a much more intimate conversation than we do on Instagram I'm the biggest Kate Hammer fan in the world oh my goodness okay I'm gonna just need a moment to get over that all right while you're taking your moment do you remember Kate Hammer being in the I think this is the August issue REAL SIMPLE oh my god Kate Hammer number one tip love it we're getting more Kate Hammer in the world I mean our brands are so are so like aligned you know making life better making yourself better making things easier it just it feels right this this you and me thing I love that so much and I totally feel the same way absolutely and we're going to dig into that a ton I have some great questions for you about how REAL SIMPLE does exactly that how you show up for people and how they solve their everyday life troubles and so let's start just by explaining that okay Liz is both the editor-in-chief at REAL SIMPLE and also SHAPE Magazine yes we imagine this is quite wild can you share with us what a typical day looks like for you oh gosh there is none in fact this morning I did a meditation about like finding your best self in your work day and it was it was asking me to think about a typical workday and I just I absolutely do not have one which is one of the reasons I love my job um I'm happiest when I'm in in a story in a problem in a project in an issue and I'm thinking through like the magazine-ness of it all like is telling the story is the layout working whatever that's when I'm in my zone um but I'm I'm I'm often writing I'm often Instagramming um just sort of behind the scenes about REAL SIMPLE um I love to work out so I'm living the shape lifestyle lots of meetings with um the brilliant people who work on SHAPE and REAL SIMPLE and actually create the beautiful amazing helpful content in both publications I mean I'm just I'm just like the conductor they're the geniuses so I spent a lot of time talking and reading and writing yes actually I love that I love that metaphor of a symphony yeah you're the conductor but you have all these people in front of you who are so talented and working so hard and all in this very synchronous harmonious way I love that so in order to make it all work do you have any strategies or tools that you use in order to get your most important and critical items done every day well I always try to do the most once I sit down for work I try to do the most um difficult or distasteful or complicated thing first I read somewhere I think it was in Cosmo Magazine like 400 years ago yeah yeah that like it creates momentum in your day like make the phone call that you're dreading making like write the the thing the email that's like been hanging over you for three days like just get it out of the way so in theory that's what I try to do um and I feel like that creates pretty good momentum I find that I'm a morning person and then an early evening person and this pandemic has opened up like I don't know what I'm gonna do when I can't take my 4 p.m to 6 p.m nap like
like my maybe I should just like have the team like like nursery school when we're back to when we're back to work I'll be like okay this will be quiet time four to six you can either go home or I'm gonna nap but like and then I pick up and I do so much I do work at the end of the day and that's when I'm best able to focus so knowing my I guess biorhythms yeah yeah I feel like this pandemic and and so many of us working from home has really given us that opportunity to figure out what our as you say bio rhythms are uh you know usually we're when we're in the office we're used to having to adhere to a very explicit schedule but now we're kind of getting a chance to feel that out yeah how does it affect my work if I actually do my exercise at lunchtime for example because when I take my shower it doesn't matter all that much all of a sudden precisely yes I love that okay so when I think about what REAL SIMPLE offers it's all about solving everyday problems for women who aspire to live well just um actively seeking to improve their quality of life seeking out those resources those tips those hacks so you're producing this stuff month after month after month how do you and your team of editors continue to find inspiration well right when REAL SIMPLE started 21 years ago now um you know hacks weren't everywhere now every TikToker ever right there's hacks everywhere so yeah um it's really about being and this is what a little bit where the conductor part comes in being aware of trends being aware of subtle shifts in how people are living or managing their money or caring about their beauty or minding their health or the kind of books they're reading or whatever the subject in REAL SIMPLE is being on top of what's next or how things have changed and so that way the service can change so you're not just always doing um you know how to use grains in your dinner you know you're thinking about you know like grain bowls are hot so let's take the let's take that grain story and make it about grain bowls so it's it's different and fresh and modern and useful so always and it's tough because REAL SIMPLE covers every area of a woman's life from travel- I said them all finance is getting even better work life balance family all of it and food eating and so I need to be on top of trends in almost every lifestyle area which I love I love research I love data and I seek that insight in that feedback not just from the McKinsey reports that are coming out although I do digest all of that right big corporations that are saying you know um forest resorts are big in travel right so I see that but also really getting into um looking at comments on social media what people are saying um to each other not just in the REAL SIMPLE world um but what is lighting people's fire apolitically I'm not talking about politics or anything I'm talking about you know we're a respite from all of that gotcha ah yeah I mean it really is quite a feat I mean especially when I think about the print side because you're making decisions and trying to tune into what is going to be true 8 9 10 maybe even 12 months from now exactly exactly so a good example is and you know we're not breaking life breaking news like life-saving news so we don't have to worry about that this the website does but you know for example Halloween's a perfect um example because we have to shoot next year's Halloween this year because there's only 35 45 days in the year and people who work on magazines know this that you can get a real pumpkin other others are there you have to get the mini fake pumpkins right but it's not the same right so you have to every magazine shoots their next halloween story um and so we were noticing the rise in succulents right and and that succulents were trending and so we decided in knowing that succulents aren't going to go anywhere for this October issue to do um how to make pumpkin and succulents work with pumpkins and succulents to make centerpieces small idea but like thinking ahead um about what we what we might be able to do yeah I love that that is so fun okay so yes you're giving us new ideas you're helping us solve problems I mean you said you're not saving lives but I don't know I could argue to the contrary you know there's a hair cream that uh was mentioned and I believe it was either your June or July issue that I bought and has changed my life dramatically I feel like we'll see that's see that's the nuance Kate you hit it ahead thank you I want to thank you um this is um we're not saving lives like making vaccines right but right changing lives that I hear this all the time with REAL SIMPLE they say I read 15 years ago in REAL SIMPLE to always keep a pair of reading glasses next to every chair in my house and I have done that and it's it changed my life like life is so much easier because I always have reading glasses wherever I need them so little things like that were known for those memorable life-changing yes um hacks yes I love that I love the idea of how are you going to spend how is it solving a problem yeah instead of just like oh I see this thing I like like does it solve a problem that's exactly right and that's why you probably love that beauty that hair cream um Muir who's our beauty director and her team you know we don't just do a list of beauty products in REAL SIMPLE we call it genius beauty so if we are mentioning a product it has to serve two purposes um or really have a really big innovation that they've tested and believe in so that's the same thoughts for there and man like it really smells good too that's exactly right these little joys these I mean when I started when I started at REAL SIMPLE one of um you know our marketing department had just had had posters made called that said breathe because when you get to when you go through REAL SIMPLE when you get to the end not only will it make your life easier but even that like the the paper and the the way we design the pages has a lot of white space the whole experience is supposed to be calming so not just time saving so you have more time to do more things but really to make your life better to be able to relax that's what the whole brand is about including that hair cream that smells good for you as far as spending money to save problems you revealed in a recent fall issue three things that you like to spend money on cars pets and cable tv well actually it was like not spend I spend too much money on them okay overspend or spend a lot overspend and it's just part of it is love like pets you know what like I have three ferrets long story different show but one of them needs adrenal implants like I'm about to spend a thousand dollars on a ferret's adrenal implants um but like I do that sort of happily because I love I love the ferret but like cable we spend too much on cable because I just have not I don't have the mental bandwidth to figure out what I need to subscribe to and like cut the cord and all it's just too overwhelming so I just keep adding yeah yeah there's different reasons I spend too much money and car and automobiles it's because I am just the worst negotiator on the planet you would think that like being big boss lady I would like be able to negotiate I've walked into every car I've ever bought or leased every auto um uh showroom and walked out either spending sticker or a little more like I just I'm terrible I'm terrible oh yeah because then they have to add in the custom floor mats and what are you going to do get some generic floor mats right right the spray that's going to keep robbers away like I guess for a thousand dollars put that on the car too yeah yeah but assuming we can't overspend in every category of our lives what's your advice to other people on choosing the right things to splurge on for them yeah um you know what it I feel uh one trick I always use whether it's seeing an outfit in a store on a piece of jewelry on a um in a little uh boutique in Rome you know I if something delights me um and it's not something I've committed my budget to I always wait at least 24 hours I walk away I shut it down I you know I don't like put a pin in the map so I can find it again right um and if 24 hours 78 hours a week later I'm still thinking about that sweater or that ring or whatever it is um then it's time to then it meet that it's that meaningful it's not that impulse purchase so always checking in with yourself about um you know is it going to be worth the the the bummer when you get the credit card statement right um can you afford it or can you not um yeah so that's that's that's a little trick but I find that some of life's and we've all I think hopefully found this those of us who've survived the pandemic um intact um so to speak you know some of the biggest joys cost nothing and living a life of gratitude living a mindful life like my daily walk with Milo um looking at how the leaves are changing every single day like that to me that is a completely free it's a time spent but it's a free moment of joy so it's not always things it's often experiences connections and all that and it sounds so woo-woo but it's so true um so tuning into that has been really helpful for me um in the last maybe 10 years or so I love that actually that would be a wonderful exercise to do on some afternoon when you're just not feeling great about where you're at like write down all of that how did you say it your free joys your free what did you say yes yes um yeah the free joys the free the experiences the things that are completely free that you see smell taste um or feel uh and that cost you nothing that are just in the world around you in your family and so tuning in it's living a mindful life or checking in with those mindful moments and you'll find there are dozens of them throughout the day if you're attuned to them I love that I think sometimes when we think about journaling or keeping a gratitude diary or something like there's just so much pressure of well what do I say and I got to make sure I you know talk about the most important things like I have to write down family and but you know the simple things too yeah I also for many years have set my phone alarm for 5:59 and it goes off every day and it's my gratitude alarm and it's I literally take 10 seconds I could be in the middle of a conversation with you and that alarm will go off and as I'm shutting it off I'm I make myself think for one moment about something I'm grateful for what a simple trick yep I love that ah that's wonderful okay so speaking of mornings and alarms going off I would love to hear about on an ideal day because you know things come up dentist appointments whatever on an ideal day what does your morning routine look like uh okay so um it starts with exercise oh you know I'd say five out of the seven days I have a commitment with either a walk with somebody or a peloton you know that class I love to take or I have a trainer and I make that first thing in the morning super super early so I literally brush my teeth put on the shoes and go and I this is I don't know if this is gonna many people can do this because I can barely do this but I don't have coffee until after the workout or after the walk so like and I find that the adrenaline of the exercise wakes you up and it's this it's this reward that's like lingering at the end of my you know pushing all those weights or whatever and I know that I'm gonna have coffee in 20 minutes in 15 minutes then drive home if I'm at the I stop at um I take a long way home and I stop at like a pond for lack of a better word and I do a 15-minute meditation and I just I am in my car which is very comfortable I turn the meditation and I close my eyes and I just I do it and then I turn the car back on and I go home and then I'm usually by then I'm like 15 minutes late for whatever first meeting I have no I'm just kidding and then I shower and and I start restart the day and try to do try to before that first meeting and I'll see you try to
take a step to solve that difficult problem write that annoying email like I said earlier in in our talk yeah yeah wow okay so for one I'm just super impressed that sounds and it sounds delightful I'm just like wow I think I need to do this I need to drive to a pond and meditate um
it sounds so nice I realized during the pandemic that my car is one of the only places where I'm alone and I'm I'm not feeling like I should be dealing with the work email or spending time with my dog my children or you know cleaning a dish like so it's making it part of car time is finally how I worked it into my life yeah you know what that's so wise because so many things in our lives just act as triggers for what we should be doing and I love how you're marrying together car and meditation like now when probably whenever you get in your car you're getting those good feelings right like the more you do this that's really interesting Kate now that I'm thinking about it I do I feel like I'm entering a quiet space like a me space because I take the family who uses the other car and so this is really my own you know I'm the only one in the car many many many times and it does feel nice yeah and you know what if you paid for that car full price then you have to maximize your car experience well it really comes full circle and makes perfect sense that's exactly that's exactly right you have found you've given me a way to think positively about not being able to negotiate auto prices yeah yeah we love this okay all right this is kind of a fun one okay let's do a little bit of myth busting because we're talking about you know we've been talking about good things good ways to be have you heard anything you know out on Instagram or just as you do your research uh for things for the magazines any terrible advice that you've seen circulating that you're like no that's bad don't say that that's not helpful to people suck in your belly tighten your abs I hate that I hate that directive I hate that mental um trigger that we all have as women and men do probably you know and I'm guilty as anyone because I in a prior life wrote diet books and they had you know and so I I'm as as guilty about feeding into diet culture as anything but my point about the the suck in your abs is um I've done a lot of reading and a little bit of practicing um with breath work and the breath um and if you breathe correctly can be so healing talk about a free way to give yourself joy and calm yourself down right and I'm still working on it but women in particular even as I'm sitting in this chair I am clenching my abs right and what you should be doing that we should all be breathing the way a baby breathes if you watch a baby breathe its belly goes up and down it's like nothing's tight air is coming in the chest is going up but also the belly we should be breathing as deeply into our belly as anything and letting it expand a little and and not worrying about the silhouette that it's creating so that would be one of um maybe a little surprising sort of myth or or tip that you hear all the time stand up straight hold in your belly um check me out at the next cocktail party see if I can really not suck in my belly oh you know I mean if you do I guess I don't know if I should high-five you or remind you not to or what it's hard work I know exactly what you're talking about especially you have you know those form-fitting dresses exactly forget it that's you know and if so we're going to do that for the red carpet fine but for the rest of our lives trying to give ourselves permission to let that muscle relax and breathe into it now there's a gift to yourself I love that oh wonderful okay Liz we're gonna jump into two very short fun segments okay here we go all right so the first segment we're going to do is called This Or That so I will give you two options and I just want you to tell us which one you're more inclined toward okay I'm scared okay yeah okay all right so the first one is read a book or listen to a playlist read a book okay I am who I am or I'm always evolving
oh my I might my gut went to I am who I am because I'm really confident in who I am I and but yet I'm also very self-critical and so always trying to improve this that or the other thing so oh my goodness I think I think the editor me wanted to say I am who I am and I love myself but I'm I'm a project I'm a project that is constantly in in process gotcha well maybe you are who you are and that is a person who is always evolving or something like that yes we'll give you a third option there okay all right the next one go on an adventure or stay in and relax oh stay in and relax I love the adventures I go on safaris believe me I love a good adventure but I am an introvert and I love to just relax and read and be I love quiet yes okay re-watch favorites or search for a new show search for a new show okay not somebody who watches movies twice even ones I loved yeah or you know I'll watch no yeah I go to a tried and true sitcom for example but I want a new episode if I've seen it before I have the urge to try something new awesome okay all right the more the merrier or more fun with fewer more fun with fewer love a small group here for humor or please be serious here for humor awesome okay I and I do have to comment if you are not following along with Liz on Instagram and her handle will be in the show notes you must do this she mentioned she was recently on a safari and she shared quite a bit about that Liz um there was some sort of ape that you were particularly tuned in on what was it was it gorillas I went to Rwanda and I trekked up to see the mountain gorillas in the Virunga Mountains which are you know they're different from lowland gorillas so um we spent two days trekking up that mountain and seeing them you get an hour at a time so yeah that's in my highlights
what's that so it's saved people can say yeah so there's lions I have different ones and them highlights lions giraffes I love giraffes went to a place called giraffe manor it was amazing where they like literally lick your face um but my Instagram is really kind of like making fun of myself and my husband like you'd think that I would have this perfect house but yet I have what I call hashtag clutter husband like he's neat and he's like amazing but he never met a surface that he didn't want to cover with piles of things right and I being this introvert like in quiet I I'm so sorry to say this I'm not a Halloween person and he little did I know loves Halloween we've been together 30 years until we had kids I didn't know our entire house is filled with monsters he puts out on November 1st this display that's in the state newspapers oh wow and on Halloween night he has a haunted house that he builds and fills with characters and smoke and it's different every year for the kids on the street like he's absolutely insane and it triggers my introvert thing and so I just rather than rather than just being like this for a month I'm on Instagram I'm just making fun of it constantly how I'm like meditating and there's this larger than life like monster over me in my house that I just painted totally but you have to find your relief and so if it's humor so be it we love this yeah Liz you shared more about this particular take on your husband's belongings in the September issue and gosh that was really funny to read well it's because it comes down to like we're different in that way right and first of all like you said find humor so that I can personally get through it yeah but then also really try to lean into the joy that he gives this neighborhood like the kids from up and down the street starting in August asking him what are his new monsters because the day after Halloween he goes and buys all the sales and so he like yeah and he keeps adding he keeps adding every year every year he keeps adding you have no idea it's it's enormous and he loves it and he gets great joy out of it so I try to reframe it in my head and the columns about reframing it and appreciating the fact that he leans into this hobby of his right the fact that he's bringing joy to the neighborhood the fact that um he's he's being sort of really REAL SIMPLE about how he organizes all of his Halloween like our entire oh yeah driveway is filled with these huge toters and one is labeled monster heads and one is labeled you know hands and feet disembodied hands and feet like it's all very very organized it takes the batteries out every at the end of the season like yeah so in reality it is appreciating that about him yeah absolutely you know I think sometimes people would think okay well if you have in a partnership someone who's introverted and someone who's extroverted there's going to be tension there it's going to be problematic but actually like speaking from personal experience I'm the introvert in our crew and my husband is the extrovert but I'm always like thank goodness he's around or I might never leave this room that's exactly right I mean have you read quiet which is the book about introversion oh I want to give her credit where credit is due I oh oh yes Susan Cain Susan Cain wrote the definitive book it's about maybe 10 years old now and it's it's defining introversion and it's talking about everything you just said it's talking about how she's married to an extrovert um how to complement the lifestyles how it doesn't mean that you can't be public like we are we're public facing people you can't it doesn't mean you can't find the energy to be up and to do this sort of thing um it's just how we're wired it's just how much energy it's just that you need to yeah you need to have down time and that she talks about President Clinton an extrovert could go all day long handshake and talk and talk and talking Obama an introvert he needed every day and if you read his memoir or Michelle I did I loved it yeah yeah he every day he needed two hours of absolute quiet time to think and process and read and so um this helped me accept who I am to our earlier beautiful the book quiet yes I'm adding it to the list it sounds like something I should read and probably my husband should read also yeah just edit by the relationship to understand it it's taken me 25 years of marriage to explain to Steve that this is how I'm wired it's not just I can't just get over it right yeah and it's not about not liking people it's not at all yeah right like we have a block party on Saturday and Steve's like okay what's it gonna be this year because I've had a rough couple of weeks and I was like I don't know I'm either gonna stay inside and totally like not even go or maybe I'll just go and like all day like it just depends how I wake up that morning you know and yeah compelling man it feels good to talk to someone who's on that same page and a lot of the mothers on the street are the same way I've noticed as the block party has gone on year after year um you know we all show up with our little casserole or whatever but you know an hour or two in most of the moms are back inside and the dads are out there grilling and you know and one other one one extrovert mom hangs till the very end of the night well great I mean hey if there's mutual understanding there what a beautiful thing exactly yeah exactly okay Liz we have one more segment and it's called rapid fire okay so just some quick questions all right all right and so I mean gosh the first one you might already know what you want to share because we just talked about it or maybe it's something more recent but what is something that you have read lately oh I do I read so much um read lately oh oh my god like I literally read like five books in a week and I can't yeah totally this resonates for me a ton because I'm a I'm a pretty avid reader as well and when I get this question I'm always like ah hold on let me pull up my Audible and my library e-reading accounts first I do have a book um I have because I give them all away in my free little library give them to staff members yeah I'll tell you two things one book that is was all the talk is Anthony Doerr Doerrs d-o-e-r-r his new book he wrote um All The Light We Cannot See oh yeah that was epic so his new book and I have I have had enormous trouble getting through that so I will tell you that I stopped at page 150 and I'm gonna start later but that was not an easy one but the book that I loved and got so into is The Beasts Among Us it's coming out in the oh yeah yeah in the next couple of weeks and I love a good you know set somewhere where I've never been which in this case was South Korea um character-driven literary novel where you really get to know people and um a new place and maybe learn some polit- historic politics or all that I really that was very very powerful yes oh wonderful okay so we'll have to look out for this one um okay what's a favorite thing right now maybe a product an app or a tool something that you've been using and loving that you'd recommend to a friend hmm
i would say Kosas um uh tinted facial oil k-o-s-a-s Heather Muir suggested it for me I didn't want like that big foundation yeah um that you know particularly during the pandemic but I wanted a little bit of coverage and a little bit of glow and so that's what I would recommend that sounds lovely an oil yeah it's a facial oil um and I thought it would be too oily but it's not it's perfect actually and I think my creative director uses it too because we both Peloton and so then we've got to cover up the red right we shower but and it has nice coverage but a little bit of glow it's lovely oh okay all right now you're speaking my language and probably for anyone who's listening too because we all know what that feels like yes you know we're trying to be awesome and fit in our workouts but there is this period of redness that is very real yes so we need the Kosas let's get it okay okay I'll give you a link I hope I'm not mispronouncing it but I'll send you the link okay what is something people would be surprised to learn about you
hmm my life is really an open book thanks to Instagram um it would probably be the extent to which I'm self-critical and this the extent to which I can get stuck in negative self-talk because I talk a good game about how other people should you know be positive in all of this but I'm the first person to ruminate over um oh did I talk to everybody I should have at that cocktail party um did I resting -- face when I
was I listening intensely enough when my child was telling me that story like I constantly like doing that um so the self-criticism oh yeah man I feel that we all we all have it at least I let my belly out now yeah yeah well yes if you wonder back now did I let my belly out yeah excuse me I looked at like I've just given up all of it did I look did my belly look big in that photo or in that meeting or forget it forget it i don't care oh goodness yeah absolutely sometimes we tune in on these things about ourselves that we wonder like who noticed and I think there's one person probably almost every time and it's just us that's us yeah that's so true nobody was paying the attention to you that you wish that they were no because we're all worried about our own appearance and how and you know what we said or didn't say and yeah absolutely okay finish this sentence you'll never see me you'll never see me in jeans oh what I feel so uncomfortable in blue jeans and haven't worn them in or even black jeans in maybe 20 years is it the feeling of denim yeah with feeling of denim it's it's I know my body shape right and I know what's what feels comfortable what I can move in and what's flattering I've got like I've got an hourglass situation happening I mean it's not an hourglass but it's an hourglass there are curves right there are curves and jeans just make me I feel in jeans as if I'm a stuffed sausage it's the same thing as when I went to buy my wedding gown however many years ago I thought I'd want that that that mermaid silhouetted thing and it looked fabulous and I loved it but on me no no no no I it just wasn't the dress for me so I wound up getting like tight bodice and like just a tulle skirt so I'm a dress person I'm a yoga pants person I'm a wide legged pants person um but you're never gonna see me a pair of jeans interesting well wide legs are certainly having a moment right now thank god it's it's a fun shape and I'm with you and you know what that wedding dress story I hear you because what you think what you think you want versus what is your dress because all of the examples we see as we're pouring through you know wedding magazines and whatever like the imagery that's out there right there is this particular svelte long lean body type and so we're comparing the type the styles on this kind of similar body type or at least it used to be that case like for me I was married a decade ago I think now people have the advantage of seeing all sorts of clothing on all sorts of bodies which is a wonderful thing but right for some point in time that was not the case and so we would think to ourselves oh yes I wanted this like Grecian gown look and I thought oh yeah this is gonna be it but I'm 5'4 and I'm pretty curvy too and it was not it and I went yeah and you go with when you put it it's like Say Yes To The Dress like you know it when you put it on yeah you know it yeah before you look in the mirror you know it how does it feel like I just put this dress on it felt like I could be happy all day long on the happiest day of my life in this dress that's the feeling that's it absolutely okay last question for you oh no I don't want this to end it's so fun I know but we're I think we're like one minute over so like story in my life I'm always five minutes late to everything so oh my goodness okay all right so when you need to get focused whether it's for you know drilling down on some awesome exercise or um getting going with a work project do you have any amp song or triggering thing that you do to get in the zone well I do a lot of tv or um you know Today Show Good Morning America neat presentations that kind of thing speaking to ballrooms of people before I do that I always go into the bathroom look in the mirror and say you're prepared you're smart and you're going to kill this and I and then I walk out and do it so that's like my thing and it used to be I used to have like like rap my my at bat music used to be Kid Rock but then he showed up in Rolling Stone with like a dead cougar around his neck and I couldn't I can't I can't go with that so so I'm off Kid Rock like very Cruella de Vil yeah I was like oh man you just gave me like the biggest reason to just never just to just be over you so yeah that's that's self-talk in the mirror those are my things you you're smart you're prepared and you're gonna kill it ah so fun okay I might have to adapt but then you have to be prepared you have to have been prepared if you're not prepared you can't say that oh yeah because that critic is going to be like no no no no you're not prepared you're going to fail right but if you know you're going to give yourself that speech all the more reason to get prepared right because you're like I'm going to believe myself tomorrow when I give myself the speech that's right that's right it's all about that preparation and that's what I love about your whole thing it's like yeah you can do it but you but you gotta put in the work like I've been on this I've been on morning television a hundred times right I still there's no script but I still practice what I'm going to say when I practice it comes out of my mouth I just don't read it I stand there and I pretend I'm on set like at least 20 times the night before yeah my husband's like really you still it's really just how to make jello and I'm like I know but I want it to come out of my mouth smoothly I want to have that mind memory so that even if I am distracted by Al Roker making a joke it still comes out well yeah so prepare that's that's been the secret Liz so many wonderful takeaways today thank you so much for your time this has been such a treat it's a blast I'm when next time I get up your way we're gonna we're gonna get together oh man and I'll be coming downstate I need to be in New York I have to make a trip down there I'll keep you posted when I do please do we'll be back in the office pretty much three days a week starting in like mid-November so awesome all right well have a great rest of your week and I'll talk to you soon bye Kate thank you bye thank you so much wow Liz Vaccariello everyone that was incredibly fun thank you for tuning in if you enjoyed your time with us today please share this episode with a friend then subscribe follow leave a comment or give a five star review season one of the show will include more chats with top authors experts and influential personalities we will be serving up simplified applied psychology habit theory and quality of life tips and tricks that you can put into action right away until next week I'm Kate Hammer and You Know How To Live
